From owner-frc@troll.no Mon Jan 26 19:21:34 1998 Received: from root@svin10.win.tue.nl [131.155.70.127] by svin04.win.tue.nl (8.8.7) for id TAA13185 (ESMTP). Mon, 26 Jan 1998 19:21:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from lupinella.troll.no [195.0.254.19] by svin10.win.tue.nl (8.8.7) for id TAA17659 (ESMTP). Mon, 26 Jan 1998 19:21:23 +0100 (MET) Received: by troll.no id <79667-291>; Mon, 26 Jan 1998 19:21:12 +0100 Sender: owner-frc@troll.no Precedence: list X-Loop: frc Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 13:19:01 -0500 (EST) From: "A.K.A. TheWiz" To: frc@troll.no Subject: Round 89 Update Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR Round 89 Summary ================ Formatting ---------- This judge lists all times in EST. You know what the wallpaper is. In the interests of readability, it's not extensively labelled. Rules reformatted to fit in 75 columns when necessary. Data ---- Started 10:00 AM, Friday, Jan. 23, '98. Topic: Design a Logic Puzzle Judge: Dan Knapp Wizard: Joshua (Chaos Harlequin) Player Summary -------------- Name Rules Until Doug Chatham 89:1(V,+1), +1 1:15 PM, 1/30/98 (Fri) Jeremy Selengut 89:2(V,-1), -1 2:59 PM, 1/30/98 (Fri) Andrew Stefanski 89:3(V,+0), +0 4:12 PM, 1/30/98 (Fri) Anton Cox 89:4(V,+1), +1 9:20 AM, 2/2/98 (Mon) All others +0 10:00 AM, 1/30/98 (Fri) Rule Summary ------------ 89:1, at 1:15 PM, 1/23/98, VALID, +1, by Doug Chatham 89:2, at 2:59 PM, 1/23/98, VALID, -1, by Jeremy Selengut 89:3, at 4:11 PM, 1/23/98, VALID, +0, by Andrew Stefanski 89:4, at 9:20 AM, 1/26/98, VALID, +1, by Anton Cox Rule Texts ---------- 89:1 >>>>> Way back in '89, there was a popular logic puzzle known as the Mystery Box. Whenever you touched the box at one point, another portion of the box would light up with some color. Also, some touches would cause the box to start making some noise. The objective (under the standard puzzle rules) was to make the entire box light up with one color WITHOUT making any noise. Future rules will describe various aspects of the Mystery Box (e.g. standard notations, method of solution, variant puzzle rules). <<<<< Doug Chatham, 1:15 PM, 1/29/98 VALID. Suitably mysterious and I like it. So +1 style points. 89:2 >>>>> The Mystery Box in question for this round is, of course, the Fantasy Mystery Box (or FMB for short). The FMB is related to the classic (circa '89, CMB for short) in spirit but differs in substantial ways with regard to mechanism as well as the object of the game. In particular, the incorporation of a speech synthesizer allows the box to speak to you, which it invariably does after every manipulation resulting in a change in the game state. <<<<< Jeremy Selengut, 2:59 PM, 1/23/98 Valid. Style -1. 89:3 >>>>> One of the most interesting aspects of the Fantasy Mystery Box is it's apparent violation of the laws of physics. Some of the more interesting variants of the puzzle rules cause odd changes to happen to the FMB. You can change the arrangement of the lighted portions of the box (the standard arrangement is a grid shape), the size of the sides (the standard has 9 portions on each side), or even it's physical shape - from the standard 6-sided box, to a sphere, or even a dodecahedron. To keep a player from accidentally taking on too much of a challenge, the box uses it's speech capabilities to announce the difficulty when the variants are selected. It's been known to describe some of them humorously, with phrases such as "You are such a wimp!" on a very easy puzzle, to "You'd better call the asylum now." to some of the very difficult ones. Of course, all of the rules of manipulating and solving the puzzle have been carefully designed to work on all of the variants in the FMB. <<<<< Andrew Stefanski, 4:11 PM, 1/23/98 VALID. Style +1 for good stuff, -1 for failing to get down to business, net 0. 89:4 >>>>> I have an FMB on my desk in front of me. As I have just acquired it, no portions of the box are lit, and it is in the standard cubic form with 9 regions on each side. I am now pressing the central region on the top... "An easy beginning" announces the box, as I peer forward to read the tiny script that is now legible on the lit (red) square. It says: All future restrictions on my state can only be read off a region of this box. Only lit regions can be read. As this region has been activated it is now, of course, a RED region. Once re(a)d, a region can again change colour. If no further regions can be turned RED then my description (and hence this puzzle) is complete. As there is no point having a puzzle if you are not prepared to play with it, all future rules must include a change in the state of my FMB. <<<<< Anton Cox, 9:20 AM, 1/26/98 VALID. (I intend to be generous about interpreting rule 1). Style +.5 for a description. +0 (after some thought) for the must-include. -.5 for making a Nomic-like puzzle (it hardly seems fair to penalize for failing to read my mind, but I am anyway...) +1 for doing it well and with a nice treatment of color. -0 because I dislike all speech synthesis... Total +1. ***EOF*** ___Dan_Knapp____The_Mauve_Baron______________________Beep Blip Bonk_______ http://users.bergen.org/~dankna Visit ftp://ftp.gmd.de/if-archive/ and find out about text adventures! If only one marker works, it will be yellow. -- Dr. Nevard From owner-frc@troll.no Thu Jan 29 16:40:54 1998 Received: from root@svbs01.win.tue.nl [131.155.69.3] by svin04.win.tue.nl (8.8.7) for id QAA15983 (ESMTP). Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:40:54 +0100 (MET) Received: from lupinella.troll.no [195.0.254.19] by svbs01.win.tue.nl (8.8.7) for id QAA04143 (ESMTP). Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:40:47 +0100 (MET) Received: by troll.no id <79901-290>; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 16:40:41 +0100 Sender: owner-frc@troll.no Precedence: list X-Loop: frc Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 10:38:18 -0500 (EST) From: "A.K.A. TheWiz" To: fantasy rules committee Subject: Re: 89:5 In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980129103640.006918fc@fido.nhlbi.nih.gov> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR > >>>>>> > > The FMB initially appears to be made entirely of plastic on the outside. > Certain combinations of touches can aparrently change the material out of > which certain regions are made. > > When I touch the region exactly on the other side from the one previously > touched (center bottom), the Box says "wood...sycamore, if you must know" and > the numbers 1, 2, 3 and 4 appear on the faces of the four regions surrounding > the red one on the top (in clockwise order with the "1" in the "top" position > as defined by the orientation of the text on the red region). > > I touch these regions in the indicated order. When the last is touched the > numbers disappear, a "knock wood" sound is heard and the red region is > transformed into what appears to be red-stained sycamore. The text on that > region has also disappeared. The center bottom region is now red and contains > the text, "The final solution contains no wood - but while wood is present > the solution is still attainable." In very small text around the edge of > the region is written, "No trees were injured in the manufacture of this box!" > > >>>>>> VALID and +0.5. ___Dan_Knapp____The_Mauve_Baron______________________Beep Blip Bonk_______ http://users.bergen.org/~dankna Visit ftp://ftp.gmd.de/if-archive/ and find out about text adventures! The good, the bad, and the unmentionable. From owner-frc@troll.no Thu Jan 29 17:33:32 1998 Received: from root@svin07.win.tue.nl [131.155.70.232] by svin04.win.tue.nl (8.8.7) for id RAA16597 (ESMTP). Thu, 29 Jan 1998 17:33:32 +0100 (MET) Received: from lupinella.troll.no [195.0.254.19] by svin07.win.tue.nl (8.8.7) for id RAA23329 (ESMTP). Thu, 29 Jan 1998 17:33:27 +0100 (MET) Received: by troll.no id <79915-289>; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 17:33:21 +0100 Sender: owner-frc@troll.no Precedence: list X-Loop: frc Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 11:31:04 -0500 (EST) From: "A.K.A. TheWiz" To: John-Martin Lotz cc: fantasy rules committee Subject: Re: 89.6 In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980129082114.00adbab8@gate1.tomatoweb.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: OR > When I touched the box, the FMB spoke, "Now touch the red region in the > center > of the bottom that is numbered one then touch the region marked with a > two." > > I looked and found that the box now had a '1' in the red region and a blue > region > was marked with a two. I hit them in the order I was instructed. When I > did so, > the the box changed again. This time the center of the top region was red, > and > the rest of the box was black and very heavy. "It's ebony," said the box. It > continued, "You must remember that the color of the first region you touch > and the wood that the box is made of, will determine the next state of the > FMB." VALID, +.5 ___Dan_Knapp____The_Mauve_Baron______________________Beep Blip Bonk_______ http://users.bergen.org/~dankna Visit rec.games.video.classic and find out about Pac-Man's contemporaries! If man had been meant to fly, he would have invented airplanes. From owner-frc@troll.no Thu Feb 12 17:28:53 1998 Received: from root@svtt01.win.tue.nl [131.155.70.80] by svin04.win.tue.nl (8.8.7) for id RAA13656 (ESMTP). Thu, 12 Feb 1998 17:28:52 +0100 (MET) Received: from lupinella.troll.no [195.0.254.19] by svtt01.win.tue.nl (8.8.7) for id RAA12350 (ESMTP). Thu, 12 Feb 1998 17:28:48 +0100 (MET) Received: by troll.no id <79651-278>; Thu, 12 Feb 1998 17:28:41 +0100 Sender: owner-frc@troll.no Precedence: list X-Loop: frc From: "johnl" To: "Fantasy Rules Committee" Subject: I think we have a winner Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:23:56 -0800 Message-ID: <01bd37d2$9dde66e0$030101c0@seymour> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Status: OR According to my records, Jeremy D. Selengut sent 89.5 off the server on 1-29-98 at 7:35 PST and I sent out 89.6 at 8:26 PST the same day. AKA the Wiz's approval went out at 7:37 and 8:29 receptively the same day. That was 14 days ago. Unless I messed something that means won. To quote from the Summary that AKA the Wiz sent Name Rules Until Doug Chatham 89:1(V,+1), +1 1:15 PM, 1/30/98 (Fri) Jeremy Selengut 89:2(V,-1), -1 2:59 PM, 1/30/98 (Fri) Andrew Stefanski 89:3(V,+0), +0 4:12 PM, 1/30/98 (Fri) Anton Cox 89:4(V,+1), +1 9:20 AM, 2/2/98 (Mon) All others +0 10:00 AM, 1/30/98 (Fri)