From: owner-frc-digest To: frc-digest@nvg.unit.no Subject: frc-digest V1 #436 Reply-To: frc Errors-To: owner-frc-digest Precedence: bulk frc-digest Tuesday, 2 April 1996 Volume 01 : Number 436 Face-to-Face Fantasy Rules FRC Home Version --- Take Two Rule 53:10 and 53:11 Rule 54:2 Judgment Re: Rule 54:2 Judgment Re: Rule 54:2 Judgment ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dchatham@utk.edu (Doug Chatham) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 21:09:18 -0500 Subject: Face-to-Face Fantasy Rules - --=====================_828349758==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" For quite a few days now, I've been thinking of making a face-to-face version of the FRC game. Attached is what I've got so far, and I'd like to hear the collective wisdom of the Committee on this matter. 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Below is the FRC Home Version I was referring to earlier: Regular Ordinances of the Fantasy Rule (FR) Committee: the Home Version [Rough Draft] 1. Ordinances. There shall be two types of ordinances: regular ordinances and fantasy rules. Fantasy rules shall have no effect on play except as provided for in the regular ordinances. 2. Membership. Any person may become a member of this committee. A member may resign from the committee at any time. 3. Preparation. Before the start of the first round, the members shall select a Judge and determine how members are to "post". [e.g. by writing on Post-It Notes and placing them on a wall, or by using chalk on a particular chalkboard] 4. Starting a Round. The Judge shall determine the exact time of the start of the round, and e may also suggest a theme for the round and nominate a member to post the first fantasy rule. All members except the Judge are eligible as if they had posted a valid fantasy rule at the start of the round. 5. Eligibility to play. Only those persons eligible to play may post fantasy rules. Each valid fantasy rule makes its author eligible to play. This eligibility period lasts for ten (10) minutes from the time of the rule's posting minus three (3) minutes for each invalid fantasy rule posted by the same person after the valid fantasy rule. [I had thought of creating a turn system, but decided against it --- I'd like to keep as close to the spirit of our game as possible.] [Should I use the time periods in this set of rules?] 6. End of a Round. If at any time after the tenth (10th) minute of a round, there is only one person eligible to play, then (a) all current fantasy rules are repealed (b) the round ends (c) the sole remaining player is declared winner of the just ended round and becomes Judge. Whenever a round of play ends, a new round should begin as soon as possible thereafter. 7. Judge. The Judge is responsible for interpreting the ordinances and determining the validity of fantasy rules. If a fantasy rule is inconsistent with itself, previously posted valid fantasy rules, or the regular ordinances, then the Judge shall declare that rule invalid. 8. Resignation. The Judge may resign if e appoints a successor who agrees to serve as Judge until the end of the round. The new Judge becomes ineligible to play upon the old Judge's resignation. 9. Style Points. For each fantasy rule posted, the Judge shall award X points, where -3<=X<=3. The Judge may use any criteria e sees fit for such awards. At the end of a Round the Player who has collected the most Style Points will be the Wizard in the next Round. 10. Overriding Judge's Decisions. The decision of the Judge may be changed if a proposal is made to do so and that proposal receives a two-thirds affirmative vote of the members voting on that proposal. [We're all in the same room -- we should be able to have a quick roll-call or show-of-hands. Therefore no voting period.] 11. Default. If the Judge does not declare judgment of a fantasy rule within five (5) minutes after its posting, e shall be considered then to have decided and declared that rule valid. 12. Amendment. The regular ordinances may be amended if a proposal is made to do so and said proposal receives a two-thirds (2/3) affirmative vote of the members voting on that proposal. [Amendments may be temporary, and since there is no "voting period", the Override ordinance is unnecessary. Where to Do Things is covered by this version's ordinance 3.] __________________________________________ Doug Chatham Email: dchatham@utk.edu Web page: http://funnelweb.utcc.utk.edu/~chatham/ Nomic WWW Board: http://funnelweb.utcc.utk.edu/~chatham/cgi-bin/msgs.html ------------------------------ From: KUNNE@FRCPN11.IN2P3.FR Date: Mon, 01 Apr 96 08:59:08 MET Subject: Rule 53:10 and 53:11 I hate to say this, but I didn't understand, neither the "Grotesk" Rule nor Sharkey's reply. 2) Four Seasons Vivaldi Baroque Music In any case it gives me the opportunity the execute an idea I had already at the start of this Round.... I submit *two* Rules and I hope Sharkey forgives me..... >>>>53:10 > The previous work is of course a cleverly disguised classic typeface. > > Although this may be scandalously difficult for the judge to size, > the work mentioned here is "Watergate", sponsored by Richard M. Nixon. > > The sponsor of any rule may not share any name with a > sponsor from any previous valid rule. >>>>> >>>>53:11 The previous rule is a classic case of Plagiarism! The Rule features Napoleon's Waterloo "Waterloo", sponsored by Marechal Michel Ney, one of the few on the French side who didn't make a fool of himself on this "field of tears". As the size of a classic is hard to determine in most case, I define: size of an item: either its Real Life surface or as many square kilometers as there are characters in its name. From this Rule on all classics shall contain the letter W or M. >>>>>> Greetings, Ronald PS The W/M restriction was inspired by my 3-year old son Stephan, who is started to read using letters on wooden blocks, and uses W and M's indiscrimately ------------------------------ From: Residue@aol.com Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:30:33 -0500 Subject: Rule 54:2 Judgment Current Status for Round 54 player eligibility style - ---------- ----------- ----- Hokes 95-04-08 25:07:58 1.5 Stein 95-04-08 13:14:72 2.0 others 95-04-08 01:00:00 Rule 54:2 (Hokes) VALID 1.5 Style Points >>>>> All rules to which this rule applies are INVALID. Pyrite is the official mineral of this round. >>>>> Judgment: It doesn't break any of the rules in this round so far. Style: While I'm tempted to penalize Hokes for submitting a nonexistent rule, I do have to admit it _is_ particularly appropriate for the holiday season... Bryan Bowe residue@aol.com ------------------------------ From: "Laurent Bossavit" Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 20:33:31 +0100 Subject: Re: Rule 54:2 Judgment Our Judge sez: > Current Status for Round 54 > > player eligibility style > ---------- ----------- ----- > Hokes 95-04-08 25:07:58 1.5 > Stein 95-04-08 13:14:72 2.0 > others 95-04-08 01:00:00 > > > Rule 54:2 (Hokes) VALID 1.5 Style Points > > >>>>> > All rules to which this rule applies are INVALID. > > Pyrite is the official mineral of this round. > >>>>> > > Judgment: It doesn't break any of the rules in this round so far. Huh ? You lost me there... I thought (as per Rule 54:1, clause 54b, paragraph III) only the past tense was allowed in even-numbered sentences for Rules posted after 4:00 GMT. Or does the First of the Month clause apply ? - -[Morendil]- Why isn't 'phonetic' spelled the way it sounds ? ------------------------------ From: KUNNE@FRCPN11.IN2P3.FR Date: Tue, 02 Apr 96 01:54:37 SET Subject: Re: Rule 54:2 Judgment On Mon, 1 Apr 1996 09:30:33 -0500 you said: >Current Status for Round 54 > >player eligibility style >---------- ----------- ----- >Hokes 95-04-08 25:07:58 1.5 >Stein 95-04-08 13:14:72 2.0 >others 95-04-08 01:00:00 > > >Rule 54:2 (Hokes) VALID 1.5 Style Points It is (rather was) April 1. Does that explain why I never saw 54:1? (Or the winning rule of 53?) Greetings, Ronald ------------------------------ End of frc-digest V1 #436 *************************