From: owner-frc-digest To: frc-digest@nvg.unit.no Subject: frc-digest V1 #148 Reply-To: frc Errors-To: owner-frc-digest Precedence: bulk frc-digest Thursday, 6 April 1995 Volume 01 : Number 148 Judgements Re: Judgements 33:14 33:14 Summary and Standings ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rchatham@math.utk.edu Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 22:02:04 -0400 Subject: Judgements 33:10 VALID +1 Style 33:11 INVALID -1 Style 33:12 VALID +1 Style 33:13 INVALID 0 Style I take the player's word for it in 33:11. In 33:13 there is a forbidden period. 33:14 from Andre is as yet undecided. A more detailed summary will be posted tomorrow. Sincerely, Doug Chatham, Judge ------------------------------ From: Don Blaheta Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 21:40:52 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Judgements Doug sez: > A more detailed summary will be posted tomorrow. While you're at it, could you post an up-to-date? > Sincerely, > Doug Chatham, Judge Vanyel - -=-=-=-Don Blaheta-=-=-=-blahedo@quincy.edu-=-=-=-dblaheta@aol.com-=-=-=- When I was in school, I cheated on my metaphysics exam: I looked into the soul of the boy sitting next to me. -- Woody Allen ------------------------------ From: rchatham@math.utk.edu Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 11:55:59 -0400 Subject: 33:14 33:14 from Andre looks OK to me. However, I am not yet officially judging 33:14. Expect the summary/update late tonight (All times EDT.). Sincerely, Doug Chatham ------------------------------ From: Richard Chatham Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 18:44:04 -0400 Subject: 33:14 I judge Andre's 33:14 to be INVALID. According to 33:12, "wr" in "written" should have been "r". I do award 1 Style Point. Sorry. Doug Chatham ------------------------------ From: Richard Chatham Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 19:13:32 -0400 Subject: Summary and Standings Well, here is the round to date. Fantasy Rule 33:1 From Oerjan Mon Mar 27 12:30:24 1995 VALID ---- +2 Style ______________________________________________________________ The goal of this Round is to construct a new and hopefully better better version of English, which we will know as NewSpeak. Every Rule must therefore suggest an improvement in spelling, grammar, word creation or other aspect of the language of the Rules (in this current Rule yet identical to English) to be utilized in all future Rules. In the future, silent "e" is to be moved to just after the previous vowel. ______________________________________________________________ Fantasy Rule 33:2 From Storm Mon Mar 27 13:25:15 1995 VALID ---- +1 Style ______________________________________________________________ To saev tiem and spaec and eliminaet possiebl errors such as "hte", "the" is dropped from NewSpeak. This is consistent with NewSpeak's Three Princiepls, particularly First Princiepl: Less is moer! ______________________________________________________________ Note: Doesn't "dropped" have a silent "e"? I'll assume Storm uses a different pronounciation than I do. Maybe she was Shakespeare in a prior life...) Note: Less is moer; a plusfitful slogan for NewSpeak. Big Brother would approve [:)]. _____________________________________________________________ Fantasy Rule 33:3 From Vanyel Mon Mar 27 13:39:12 1995 VALID ---- +1 Style Points _________________________________________________ In addition to soem rearraengment of letters, sertain letters aer omitted entierly or replaesd with others; for eksaempl: In all kaess, 'x' is replaesd with 'ks'. In all kaess, 'c' is replaesd with either 'k' or 's', depending on its pronunsiation in word (hard 'c' is replaesd with 'k', and soft 'c' is replaesd with 's'). This is konsistent with Sekond prinsiepl of NewSpeak: One Sound, One Spelling! Nekst ruel will tell us Third prinsiepl of NewSpeak. _________________________________________________ Note: I'll allow "kaess". ______________________________________________________________ Fantasy Rule 33:4 From Andre Tue Mar 28 05:02:05 1995 VALID --- +1 Style _________________________________________________________________ Thirth (or should that not be a kapital?) Prinsiepl of NewSpeak is: Oen Grammar fits all! In akkordaens with this prinsiepl, ruels for plurals aer simplified. In NewSpeak all plurals aer foermd by adding -s to word. This way plural of 'moues' is not 'mies', but 'mouess', plural of 'deer' is not 'deer', but 'deers', plural of 'mass' is not 'masses', but 'masss', plural of 'man' is not 'men', but 'mans', and so on. Long liev NewSpeak! Down with OldSpeak! _________________________________________________________ Fantasy Rule 33:5 From Oerjan Tue Mar 28 10:07:06 1995 INVALID --- +1 Style Point ==== To enfoers Sekond Prinsiepl, following letter kombinations in futuer aer respeelld as follows: 'ay','ey' -> 'ae' 'ow' -> 'oe' 'ea','ei' -> 'ee' 'ew' -> 'ue' Alsoe, siengl letters 'a'e, 'o'e, 'e'e, and 'u'e will from noe on haev an 'e'e added when thae aer pronouensd long. ==== Explanation: The last sentence of this rule says that "from now on" , single vowels will be repeated when pronounced long. "From now on" includes "now", i.e. the current rule. However "respeeled" has a long "e". Therefore this rule is not self -consistent. I originally judged this Rule VALID, but am now changing my mind.... __________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ Fantasy Rule 33:6 From Jeremy Selengut Tue Mar 28 11:04:00 1995 INVALID --- +1 Style ___________________________________________________ >>>Rule start>>> 1) from this ruel forward kapital (upr kaes) letrs may not be uesd to indikaet propr nouns or begining of sentenss. 2) from this ruel forward doubld konsonants which hav saem sound as a singl konsonant shal be writn as singl konsonant. for eksampl, "addiction" would be writn as "adiction" (whiel "session" would not be writn as "sesion"). 3) definition: 'silent e' is when an 'e' is uesd such that sound of preseding vowl is alterd by its presens, but 'e' itself has no sound. a 'non-pronounsd e' is oen which has no sound and no efect on pronounsiation of previous vowl (such as 'e' in "massed", "have" or "single"), but might hav an efekt on preseding konsonant (as in "sentence"). 4) from this ruel forward 'non-pronounsd e's shal be omitd entierly. 5) from this ruel forward words in doubl quoets ("") may only be uesd as eksampls and need not be speld proprly. >>>rule end>>> Explanation: The letter "c" (in "efect") is made illegal by 33:3. ____________________________________________________________ Fantasy Rule 33:7 From Oerjan Thu Mar 30 07:15:43 1995 VALID --- +1.5 Style Points ==== Unnesessary auksiliary words droeppd. ==== Explanation for Style Points: Brevity is the soul of wit. ___________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________ Fantasy Rule 33:8 From Jeremy Selengut Thu Mar 30 10:22:22 1995 VALID ---- 0 Style Points __________________________________________________________ >>>Rule start>>> 1) from now on kapital letrs may not be uesd to indikaet propr nouns or begining sentenss. 2) from now on doubld konsonants which hav saem sound as singl konsonant shal be writn as singl konsonant. for eksampl, "addiction" would be writn "adiction" (whiel "session" would not be writn "sesion"). 3) definition: 'silent e'; when 'e' is uesd such that sound of preseding vowl is alterd, but 'e' itself has no sound. 'non-pronounsd e'; oen which has no sound and no efekt on pronounsiation of previous vowl ('e' in "massed", "have" or "single"), but might hav efekt on preseding konsonant ("sentence"). 4) from now on 'non-pronounsd e's shal be omitd. 5) from now on words in doubl quoets ("") may only be uesd as eksampls and need not be speld proprly. ________________________________________________________________ Fantasy Rule 33:9 From Mike Sat Apr 1 15:31:47 1995 VALID --- +1.3 Style Points awarded ______________________________________________________________ >>>> punktuation is not valid >>>> ____________________________________________________________ Fantasy Rule 33:10 From Mike Sat Apr 1 20:43:16 1995 VALID --- +1 Style Point ___________________________________________________________ >>>> from now on ther be 1 form of verb that means be all othr forms of be be not valid not valid means kan not be uesd in newspeak from now on ther be 18 letrs in newspeak al othr letrs be not valid al 18 letrs in newspeak be on nekst lien abdefhiklmnoprstvw >>>> ____________________________________________________________ Fantasy Rule 33:11 From Vanyel Sun Apr 2 01:26:29 1995 INVALID --- -1 Style Point _________________________________________________________________ >>>> doo to soem konfoosion over how difthoNs be pronownsd in footooer eatS difthoN be ritn as it sownds for eksampl in followiN taebl soem leters ar replaesd bi nahmbers witS represent a leter in oldspeak alfabet bekiniN with a as 1 ph wil be ritn as f wen pronownsd Tat wai th wil be ritn as T wen pronownsd Tat wai 7h wil be ritn as k if pronownsd and omited if silent sh wil be ritn as S wen pronownsd Tat wai ti wil be ritn as S wen pronownsd Tat wai 3h wil be ritn as S or k or tS dependiN on pronahnsiaSon ps wil be ritn as s wen pronownsd Tat wai wh wil be ritn as w wen pronownsd Tat wai wr wil be ritn as r wen pronownsd Tat wai 1721 wil be ritn as kw n7 will be ritn as N in adiSon as Ter ar sertain misiN leters folowiN taebl lists replaesments for Tem alwais retainiN a similar sownd 7 wil be ritn as k 10 wil be ritn as dS 21 wil be ritn as w wen konsonantal and eiTer ah or oo wen a vowl dependiN on pronahnsiaSon 25 wil be ritn as i 26 wil be ritn as s or ts dependiN on pronahnsiaSon >>>> Translation: ph->f, th->T, gh->k OR gh omitted, sh->S, ti->S (maybe), ch->S OR ch->k OR ch->tS, ps->s, wh->w, wr->r, qu->kw, ng->N. g->k, j->dS, u->w OR u->ah OR u->oo, y->i, z->s OR z->ts. _____________________________________________________________________ Fantasy Rule 33:12 From Vanyel Sun Apr 2 01:32:25 1995 VALID --- +1 Style Points ____________________________________________________________________ >>>> doo to soem konfoosion over how difthoNs be pronownsd in footooer eatS difthoN be ritn as it sownds for eksampl in followiN taebl soem leters be replaesd bi nahmbers witS represent a leter in oldspeak alfabet bekiniN with a as 1 ph be ritn as f wen pronownsd Tat wai th be ritn as T wen pronownsd Tat wai 7h be ritn as k if pronownsd and omited if silent sh be ritn as S wen pronownsd Tat wai ti be ritn as S wen pronownsd Tat wai 3h be ritn as S or k or tS dependiN on pronahnsiaSon ps be ritn as s wen pronownsd Tat wai wh be ritn as w wen pronownsd Tat wai wr be ritn as r wen pronownsd Tat wai 1721 be ritn as kw n7 be ritn as N in adiSon as Ter be sertain misiN leters folowiN taebl lists replaesments for Tem alwais retainiN a similar sownd 7 be ritn as k 10 be ritn as dS 21 be ritn as w wen konsonantal and eiTer ah or oo wen a vowl dependiN on pronahnsiaSon 25 be ritn as i 26 be ritn as s or ts dependiN on pronahnsiaSon >>>> Translation: ph->f, th->T, gh->k OR gh omitted, sh->S, ti->S (maybe), ch->S OR ch->k OR ch->tS, ps->s, wh->w, wr->r, qu->kw, ng->N. g->k, j->dS, u->w OR u->ah OR u->oo, y->i, z->s OR z->ts. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Fantasy Rule 33:13 From Jeremy Mon Apr 3 11:50:39 1995 INVALID --- 0 Style Points ________________________________________________________________________ >>>ruel start>>> from now on sentenss wil begin on new liens. speling of words in newspeak must be baesd on proprly speld oldspeak words. <<