Date: Thu, 2 May 96 11:01:51 METDST From: Andre Engels To: a.g.cox@qmw.ac.uk, andyl@harlequin.com, bjones@microsoft.com, blahedo@quincy.edu, crb11@cus.cam.ac.uk, csg419@wing.rug.nl, dchatham@utk.edu, dgwagner@math.uwaterloo.ca, dug@halcyon.com, ferro@chem.cmu.edu, G.J.McCaughan@pmms.cam.ac.uk, hap@iglou.com, honsingr@charm.net, jaw@cpu.us.dynix.com, jgoodman3855@stu.oru.edu, joshuah@microsoft.com, jwelton@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu, KUNNE@FRCPN11.IN2P3.FR, mage@vt.edu, mbr2@midway.uchicago.edu, mkkuhner@genetics.washington.edu, morendil@micronet.fr, oerjan@matstat.unit.no, paluzi@mat.uniroma1.it, peter@wolfe.net, pritcc@ut.rockymt.net, Residue@aol.com, rpw11@eng.cam.ac.uk, S.R.E.Turner@statslab.cam.ac.uk, selengut@MIT.EDU, stein.kulseth@nta.no, tanner@math.wisc.edu, tpmsc46@ic.ac.uk Subject: FRC: Round 55 has ended Overview of the round: It all started nicely, but a few rules (3, 5, 6) proved too restrictive. Also, some members couldn't play because the round depended on WWW. What however killed it was the problems with the mailing-list. Anyway, on with the show. For Round 56 the Judge is Stephen and the Wizard is Ronald. Good luck! ====================================================================== All times are in GMT Total: 6 rules, 4 VALID, 0.5 Total Style. name Eligibility Style ---- ----------- ----- Stephen Wed, 1 May, 09:14 0.5 Wizard Vanyel Wed, 1 May, 05:37 1.5 Doug Wed, 1 May, 03:55 0 Ronald Tue, 30 Apr, 10:41 2 Tue, 30 Apr, 00:00 0 John M. Goodman II Mon, 29 Apr, 00:00 -2 Residue Mon, 29 Apr, 00:00 -1.5 ====================================================================== Proposals: 55:A That 55:4 be declared INVALID Status: Passed 2/3 Proposal by Stein, 24 April, 09:16 FOR: Stein, Stephen AGAINST: Bryan ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 55:B >>>>> If Stein's proposal to make Rule 55:4 invalid passes, any rules which effectively require Web access to determine their validity (or the validity of other rules) are also invalid by the same reasoning--in that they affect play in a way not provided for in the Regular Ordinances. >>>>> Status: Failed 1/3 (I'm not sure if my vote really counts, but this fails anyway). Proposal by Bryan, 24 April, 13:04 FOR: Bryan AGAINST: Ronald, Judge Andre ====================================================================== RULE 55:1 Ronald VALID 2 style >>>>> Voyage into the Unknown corners of the Web. Every Future Rule shall include a valid Universal Resource Location (URL) of an interesting and publicly accessible Web page that is directly hyperlinked to a page mentioned in an earlier Rule. Here is my all-directions-are-possible starting point: http://www.w3.org/hypertext/DataSources/bySubject/Overview.html >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Validity: No problem. As has been noted before it's quite hard to make an INVALID first rule (although... This one would have been invalid if the word 'future' was not included) Style: A completely different way of interpreting the theme than I had meant, but very likely to cause some fun. It's a good first Rule, as it opens many possibilities. ====================================================================== RULE 55:2 Doug VALID 0 style >>>rule begin So that we'll be ready if any of us gets thirsty, I mention the following source of beer links: http://www.beerinfo.com/~jlock/wwwbeer.html Each future rule should give a different reason for mentioning the address of a Web site. >>>rule end ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Validity: The link is present. Style: Sounds quite boring. ====================================================================== RULE 55:3 Wizard Vanyel VALID 1.5 style >>>>> For all the physicists on this list, I include the following link http://www.cern.ch/ and require that every link must be from a different top-level domain (.org, .com, .ch, and so on). >>>>> Eat your heart out, Ronald. :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Validity: Link is present. For this time I will regard 'for all physicists on this list' as a reason. I might not stay so lenient, though. Style: Nice restriction. Also a bonus for battling Ronald on his own ground. ====================================================================== RULE 55:4 Residue INVALID by vote -1.5 style >>>>> I'm mentioning that I'm mentioning the following Web site because I'm required to under Rule 55:1 because I'm required to under Rule 55:2: http://www.dh.umu.se/vlib.html Every valid rule includes exactly one URL. At any given time, every eligible FRC member is considered to be located (in cyberspace) at the URL included in eir most recently posted valid rule; members who have not yet posted a valid rule are considered to be located at the URL included in Rule 55:1. Voyages into the unknown are always fraught with peril, and this one is no exception. From now on, The Judge shall roll a six-sided die whenever a rule is declared valid. On a roll of 5 or 6, The Judge shall announce, as part of the judgment commentary, that the rule's author is trapped at eir current location, effective immediately after the rule was posted. All rules posted by a member while e is trapped are invalid. To become untrapped, the member must post a rule specifying a legitimate escape route. (Note that such a rule will effectively untrap its author immediately after it is posted, even though it is necessarily invalid.) An escape route consists of a sequence of one or more valid, publicly accessible URLs, each directly hyperlinked to the next, beginning with the trapped member's current location and ending with the URL of a WWW page containing the word "escape." To be legitimate, an escape route cannot use an URL used by any other legitimate escape route. >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Validity: At first I thought it did not directly hyperlink to any page already mentioned, but looking the second time, it appeared it did. (look closely) No other problems. Style: Long and complicated, and I don't like this randomness too. Would even have been -2 but for the nice first paragraph. Remark: I don't have a D6 with me now, so I'll read 'roll a six-sided die' as 'select a random number between 1 and 6'. I'll use a pack of cards (which I DO have here) to do so. Die: A 5. Residue is trapped. ====================================================================== RULE 55:5 Stephen VALID +0.5 style >>>>> This rule mentions the URL http://lion.statslab.cam.ac.uk/~sret1/frc55.html I mention this URL to alert you to the fact that it contains some instructions which future rules and escape routes must obey. >>>>> Validity: No problem Style: +1.5 for the making the URL a real part of the rule, but -1.0 for making escape routes so hard. Someone who is trapped is starting to be certain to be out of the game. Die: A 6. Stephen is trapped. ====================================================================== RULE 55:6 Stein VALID +1.0 style >>> Because I know that many of you have not submitted presentations of yourselves to our own FRC Web page, and because most of those that have have not updated theirs in a long time, I mention http://193.156.89.80/brukere/stein/frc/ and require that for all players, their next rule must include - or be accompanied in the same post by - an up to date presentation of themselves *and* the URL of their home page if any. >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Validity: No problem. Style: The page and the restriction are connected. I regard that as positive. The fact that your rule would force some of the next rules to be long, is forgiven for this once, I will not substract stylepoints. I think your friendliness of allowing the presentation and the homepage-URL to be in the post, but outside the rule is good. At least for the first week. Die: A 6. Stein is trapped too... Remark: I agree with Ronald on this rule's domain. ====================================================================== RULE 55:7 John M Goodman II -2.0 Style >>>>> It may be a very obvious advertising ploy, but none the less I will mention http://www.nether.net/~brynn/frc.htm, the home page of newly developed Escape Inc. Acutally, I think some of us will find Escape Inc. very useful, if they can afford it. As you may or may not know, I am actually one of the Illuminati who are striving for world domination. Therefore, I have secret control of many URL's. I am also the Grand High Pooh-bah of the Secret Society for the Abolition of Secret Societies (it's address will be included in this post, but is not mentioned in this rule). Anyone mentioning one of the URL's which I control (these include all URL's which contain "fnord" "illuminati" or "secret society") must do a job for me. They must find the URL of a Secret Society which is not mentioned on ny of the Secret Soceity for the Abolition of Secret Societies' pages, and post it to frc@nvg.unit.no. >>>>> My name's John M. Goodman II, and I'm a Journalism student at Oral Roberts University, in Tulsa, Oklahoma. I'm origionally from Cincinnati, Ohio, however, and can't wait to get home! I just thought you might all wanna know who I am, and I hope this is a valid presentation of myself :). I'm new to FRC--if this is valid it'll be my FIRST valid rule. :) Hope it's creative enough. Check out my hope page (below), it's the Secret Society for the Abolition of Secret Societies' home page, as I mentioned in my rule. John M. Goodman II ORU CPO Box 711358 Tulsa, OK 74171 jgoodman3855@stu.oru.edu http://www.lookup.com/homepages/73870/ssftass.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Validity: Your rule contains 'www', which is disallowed by Stephen's rule. Style: Too little restrictive (the change that you happen to own a page mentioned is rather small). Also, I don't like the idea of people paying with style points. And the colour of your page makes it too difficult to read. Remark: As you see, I add the part of the post that is not in the rule. Date: Fri, 3 May 96 14:19:54 METDST From: Andre Engels To: frc@nvg.unit.no Subject: results round 55 - corrected Here is a correction to the final standings of round 55, with Stein included. Andre ====================================================================== All times are in GMT Total: 7 rules, 5 VALID, 1.5 Total Style (average 0.2+). name Eligibility Style ---- ----------- ----- Stein Wed, 1 May, 11:43 1 Stephen Wed, 1 May, 09:14 0.5 Wizard Vanyel Wed, 1 May, 05:37 1.5 Doug Wed, 1 May, 03:55 0 Ronald Tue, 30 Apr, 10:41 2 Tue, 30 Apr, 00:00 0 John M. Goodman II Mon, 29 Apr, 00:00 -2 Residue Mon, 29 Apr, 00:00 -1.5 ======================================================================