From oerjan Sat Oct 2 17:11:12 1993 From: oerjan@nvg.unit.no (Oerjan Johansen) Subject: FR: Round 12 ends To: alyxx@NADC.NAVY.MIL, jrk@information-systems.east-anglia.ac.uk, panditvx@ntmtv.com, rlinnema@jarthur.claremont.edu, dnicol@vax1.umkc.edu, spcabg1@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu, rchatham@math.utk.edu, dmb@fig.cray.com, oerjan@nvg.unit.no, thomson@netcom.com, ecrocke@phoenix.Princeton.EDU, mkkuhner@genetics.washington.edu, stein.kulseth@nta.no, thedward@wixer.bga.com, KUNNE@frcpn11.in2p3.fr, wesc@ichips.intel.com Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1993 17:10:08 +0100 (MET) Cc: nomic@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Nomic List) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 11060 Status: OR ==== Fantasy Rules Committee Round 12 has ended. The Winner of the round is Ronald Kunne. Ronald thereby becomes The Judge of round 13. He will declare when and how round 13 starts. Ronald also, by a new amendment to the Committee's Regular Rules, is The Wizard in Round 13. Hereafter follows the final list of Fantasy Rules for round 12, for your amusement. It has indeed been a chaotic and interesting round, full of paradoxal and annoying rules. ==== Fantasy rule 12:1 (David Bowen, Tue Sep 21 15:34:35 1993) (INVALID) > This rule must not be obeyed. I rate this rule at -3. ==== Fantasy rule 12:2 (Alyxx, Tue Sep 21 19:14:56 1993) > All rules posted must contain the novel or punning use of an animal or > plant. Don't worry, this rule won't dog you around for long. This rule is legal and I rate it at 1 point. ==== Fantasy rule 12:3 (Wes, Tue Sep 21 20:31:06 1993) (INVALID BY VOTE) > All Rules posted must contain a reference to a color, such as Red, which > must be capitalized. It's not that bad, so bear with me... This rule keeps its rate of 1. ==== Ronald Kunne writes: (Wed Sep 22 11:41:38 1993) (UNSUCCESSFUL) > This rule obliges all players to chicken out of posting further rules. ==== Fantasy rule 12:4 (Richard Kennaway, Wed Sep 22 17:52:38 1993) > If a fantasy rule imposes one or more restrictions on fantasy rules, it > must impose such restrictions on all fantasy rules in the current round, > including itself and all previous rules. This rule satisfies 12:2 and 12:3 > by mentioning Ian McEwan's novel "Black Dogs". This rule is valid and I rate it at 2 points. ==== Fantasy rule 12:5 (rchatham, Wed Sep 22 18:01:58 1993) > Some sloth is good. To honor that sloth (which I call Grey), future rules > shall contain no more than three sentences. Furthermore, all rules shall > be in English. This rule is valid and I rate it at 1 point. ==== Fantasy rule 12:6 (Wes, Wed Sep 22 18:23:43 1993) > No Rule may contain the same word referring to a color, such as Blue, as > any other Rule, as long as Rule 12:2 dogs our footsteps... This rule is valid and I rate it at 1 point. ==== Alyxx writes (Wed Sep 22 18:54:47 1993) (UNSUCCESSFUL) > The "I'm not kitten" rule: All rules must have a title, right there in Black > and White (or Green on Black, or whatever your screen shows), which may or may > not have a whole lot to do with the rule itself. ==== Ronald Kunne writes (Wed Sep 22 19:03:35 1993) (UNSUCCESSFUL) > Only gold-plated rules containing a metal (not necesserally Yellow) > are valid in this rat-race. ==== David Bowen writes (Wed Sep 22 19:36:17 1993) (UNSUCCESSFUL) > Lettuce see if I've got it right now. All subsequent rules must not > obey this rule. ==== Fantasy rule 12:7 (Ronald Kunne, Wed Sep 22 20:59:48 1993) (INVALID) > If a gold-plated rule is not posted on a Tuesday or a Wednesday, it > shall contain a metal (not necesserally Yellow) to make a valid > rule in this rat-race. I rate the rule at 0. ==== Fantasy rule 12:8 (Ronald Kunne, Wed Sep 22 21:17:21 1993) (VALID, TIMEOUT) > Fantasy Rule Proposal: > At snail's pace I make an iron-clad Fantasy Rule: > all Fantasy Rules which are not followed within 24 hours > by another valid Fantasy Rule are invalid. > This might make all Players see Purple! I rate this rule at 3. ==== Fantasy rule 12:9 (Wes, Thu Sep 23 00:11:32 1993) (INVALID) > No Rule shall take effect until it's validity has been determined by the > Judge to be valid and peachy, even if it contains the word Chartreuse. I rate it at -2. ==== Fantasy rule 12:10 (Wes, Thu Sep 23 00:11:32 1993) (INVALID) > No Rule may contain the sluggish word "restriction", even if the proposer > of the Rule has a Plaid garment on. I rate it at -2. ==== Fantasy rule 12:11 (Ronald Kunne, Thu Sep 23 09:51:29 1993) (VALID, TIMEOUT) > This Violet Fantasy Rule shall turn 12:8 (and all other Rules of course) > into a whale of a Rule. I rate it at 1. ==== Fantasy rule 12:12 (Ronald Kunne, Fri Sep 24 03:04:27 1993) (INVALID) > There shall be five letters in the English alphabet that > never must be used as the first letter of a word in our > Fantasy Rules in order to get the Green light from the foxy Judge. > This rule satisfies the lead-feeted Rule 12:7, if necessary. I rate it at 0. ==== Fantasy rule 12:13 (David Nicol, Fri Sep 24 09:13:43 1993) (INVALID) > Lone hypocritical rule: > > No rule aside from this one may satisfy both rules 12:2 and 12:3 with a > single word like "orange" I rate it at -1. ==== Fantasy rule 12:14 (Stein Kulseth, Fri Sep 24 15:15:01 1993) (INVALID) > All rules must allow at least one new rule to bee added to the rules > set. No rule may, excplicitly or implicitly, completely prohibit new > rules. Rules may refrain from putting restriction(s) on other rules, > but all such rules must discuss the probability of intelligent life on > earth without referring to the color Pink. I rate this rule at 0. ==== Fantasy rule 12:15 (Ronald Kunne, Fri Sep 24 18:57:28 1993) (VALID BY VOTE) > To prevent Indigo-nous and nutty problems, no Fantasy Rule > shall be gold-proof and valid, unless there was another > Fantasy Rule declared valid or invalid > posted within 24 hours before that Rule. I rate it at 3. ==== Fantasy Rule 12:16 (Wes, Fri Sep 24 21:46:48 1993) (INVALID) > All Rules must contain either a color, which must be capitalized, or the > phrase "novel or punning". The phrase "novel or punning" shall only > exist in one Rule at a time. This Rule shall dog your footsteps until > the Plaid Scottsment come to take you a-parrot. I rate 12:16 at -2. ==== Fantasy Rule 12:17 (Wes, Fri Sep 24 21:46:48 1993) (VALID, TIMEOUT) [No] > Rule may contain the same word referring to a color, such as Yellow, > Green, Brown, Orange, White, Beige, Chartreuse, Cyan, Pink, Silver, or > Copper, as any other valid Rule. This Rule shall become dog-eared from > use as time goes by... I rate 12:17 at 1. ==== David Nicol writes (Fri Sep 24 22:20:46 1993) (UNSUCCESSFUL) > A Rule may satisafy both 12:2 and 12:3 with a single word, such as > "Orange." ==== Fantasy Rule 12:18 (Storm, Fri Sep 24 23:16:47 1993) (VALID, TIMEOUT) > Rabbit Rule > > To avoid hare-splitting, no rule shall treat its own author any > differently than it treats all other players, lest it be given the Brass > Seal of Judicial Disapproval. I rate this at 1. ==== Fantasy Rule 12:19 (Wes, Fri Sep 24 23:30:10 1993) (VALID, TIMEOUT) > All Rules must contain either a color, which must be capitalized, or the > phrase "novel or punning". The phrase "novel or punning" shal only exist in > two Rules at one time. This rule shall dog your footsteps until the Plaid > Scottemen come to take you a-parrot. I rate this rule at 2, after a little afterthought. ==== Fantasy Rule 12:20 (Ronald Kunne, Sat Sep 25 16:02:10 1993) (INVALID) > All these Fantasy Rules make us work like Auburn-haired beavers: > they shall impose one or more restrictions on itself and on other > Fantasy Rules, unless they contain a mammal, living in > quicksilvery water. I rate this rule at -2. ==== Fantasy Rule 12:21 (Ronald Kunne, Sat Sep 25 16:02:10 1993) (VALID, TIMEOUT) > Thou shalt not ape thy neighbour: > no Fantasy Rule shall contain the same word referring to a > water-living mammal, such as a dolphin, as any other Fantasy Rule. > Note that this Rule makes hardly any restriction on the use of > colours, like Turquoise or metals, like platinum. I rate this rule at 1. ==== Fantasy Rule 12:22 (Ronald Kunne, Sun Sep 26 14:58:50 1993) (INVALID) > Apricot? Mercury! I rate this rule at 1. ==== Fantasy rule 12:23 (David Nicol, Mon Sep 27 09:58:15 1993) (INVALID) > A Rule may satisfy both 12:2 and 12:3 with a single word, such as "Avacado." I rate this rule at 0. ==== Fantasy rule 12:24 (Stein Kulseth, Mon Sep 27 15:10:50 1993) (INVALID, 12:8 TIMEOUT) > This random judgement by arrival time rule will make you: Blood-red with > anger, Pale with fright and Limegreen with disgust - YAK! > Only rules that arrive at times of the day equal to one of the arrival > times of the first valid rules up to and including this one shall be > deemed valid, seconds shall not count however. I rate this rule at 1. ==== FANTASY RULE 12:25 (Alyxx, Mon Sep 27 17:14:19 1993) (INVALID) > Rules that describe the gruesome aftereffects of any high-speed impacts > between Ruby-throated warblers and gleaming Chrome (that's a color, if > brass is) bumpers shall be declared invalid on the grounds of poor > taste. Note, I did NOT describe it, I just mentioned it. I rate it at 0. ==== Richard Kennaway writes: (Mon Sep 27 17:33:07 1993) (UNSUCCESSFUL) > At every opportunity permitted in the Initial Rules for Fantasy Nomic, the > Judge henceforth otter, indeed must, question and call for a vote on every > decision he makes in fulfilling the duties of his office. ==== Dave Nicol writes: (Tue Sep 28 02:40:19 1993) (UNSUCCESSFUL) > The word "Rule" in rule 12:6, hereinafter known as the Magenta dolphin, > is taken to mean "valid rule in Fantasy Committee round 12." > Although other interpretations of the Magenta dolphin may be possible, > their appearance implies invalidity. ==== FANTASY RULE 12:26 (Stein Kulseth, Tue Sep 28 12:31:18 1993) (INVALID) > Hello, everybody. Obviously, to keep the presently undecided rules, we > must be able to post more valid rules. However, as only undecided rules > have been posted in the last 24 hours, an invalid rule is needed to get > things going again. This is such a rule, and I hope to God that I'm able > to hit the 14:58 timeslot for another valid (ie. undecided) rule before > the curtain falls at 15:00, and I also hope that Oerjan gives me a nice > score for this. I rate this to -2. ==== FANTASY RULE 12:27 (Stein Kulseth, Tue Sep 28 14:58:53 1993) (INVALID) > The parrot sketch was inaccurate - it's the Norwegian Azure > that's pine-ing for the fjords. Lovely plumage, the Norwegian > Azure. I rate this rule at 2 for the timing. ==== FANTASY RULE 12:28 (Wes, Wed Sep 29 01:47:29 1993) (INVALID, 12:8 TIMEOUT) > This Rule on message ID's will make you turn Crimson with anger, and > pucker up like a Lemon with disgust. No Rule shall be declared valid > unless the untampered with message ID of the email message in which it > was sent has the same 4 terminal digits as the email message in which > another valid Rule has been sent, up to and including this Rule. I rate this rule at 1. ==== FANTASY RULE 12:29 (Richard Kennaway, Wed Sep 29 09:57:07 1993) (INVALID) > Every rule must either (i) be posted before this rule, or (ii) have its > validity questioned and a vote called on it. How many of you gnu that > there is a colour called abbey? I rate this rule at -2. ==== FANTASY RULE 12:30 (Wes, Wed Sep 29 19:41:53 1993) (INVALID) > The Snowy night-mare rule: > No rule may contain any word which starts with the letters "q", "j", "k", > "x", or "z", although the letter is allowable if not part of a word. > === I rate your rule at -1. ==== Greetings, Oerjan. From oerjan Sat Oct 2 16:58:53 1993 From: oerjan@nvg.unit.no (Oerjan Johansen) Subject: FR: Results, end of round 12 To: alyxx@NADC.NAVY.MIL, jrk@information-systems.east-anglia.ac.uk, panditvx@ntmtv.com, rlinnema@jarthur.claremont.edu, dnicol@vax1.umkc.edu, spcabg1@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu, rchatham@math.utk.edu, dmb@fig.cray.com, oerjan@nvg.unit.no, thomson@netcom.com, ecrocke@phoenix.Princeton.EDU, mkkuhner@genetics.washington.edu, stein.kulseth@nta.no, thedward@wixer.bga.com, KUNNE@frcpn11.in2p3.fr, wesc@ichips.intel.com Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1993 16:58:08 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1719 Status: OR ==== The voting period for 12:29 is over. Result: (2/3 majority needed to change to VALID) VALID Richard Kennaway INVALID Wes Contreras Stein Kulseth Ronald Kunne Oerjan Johansen Result: 4-1 to keep as INVALID. ==== The voting period to amend regular 7 is over. Result: (2/3 majority required.) FOR Ronald Kunne Doug Chatham Wes Contreras Oerjan Johansen AGAINST Passed unanimously. Regular rule set in separate message. ==== As of Fri Oct 1 23:16:47 1993, Storm seized to be eligible to play. The only member left eligible to play is Ronald Kunne. I hereby declare Ronald Kunne the winner, and round 12 to be ended. I refer to the regular rules: > 5. End of Game. If at any time after the seventh day of a round, there > is only one person eligible to play, then > (a) all current fantasy rules are repealed > (b) the round ends > (c) the sole remaining player is declared winner of the just ended > round and becomes Judge. Ronald, you are hereby the Judge. Congratulations! I will assume that the Committee Forum is still at my address until you declare how you wish people to post. (Probably to your address, but what do I know?) I will continue distributing any messages you people send. ==== Summary of style points: Alyxx: 1+0 = 1 David Bowen: -3 = -3 David Nicol: -1+0 = -1 Doug Chatham: 1 = 1 Richard Kennaway: 2-2 = 0 Ronald Kunne: 0+3+1+0+3-2+1+1 = 7 Stein Kulseth: 0+1-2+2 = 1 Storm: 1 = 1 Wes Contreras: 1+1-2-2-2+1+2+1-1 = -1 The Wizard for round 13 is Ronald Kunne. Congratulations, Ronald! ==== Greetings, Oerjan.