From: Alan Riddell (peekee_at_blueyonder.co.uk)
Date: Fri Feb 21 2003 - 06:14:11 PST
Round Summary 201 ==== Themed "The Paraconsostent Round" Proposals ==== A B C D ==== ================ Jeff Weston A A A A Rich Holmes A A A A Jonathan Amery F - - - Andre A - - - Karl Low A - - - Stephen Turner A A A A Factitious F - - - Aron Wall - - F - James Willson - - - F Jesse A A - A Rules ==== Valid Date Style By ==== ==== ==== ==== ==== 201:1 Valid 01-24 06:17:05 -1.5 Joshua 201:2 Valid 01-24 16:53:19 +1.0 Jonathan David Amery 201:3 Valid 01-24 19:58:24 +1.5 James Willson 201:4 Valid 01-25 04:14:36 +1.5 Nathan Russell 201:5 Valid 01-30 11:23:43 +0 James Willson Round winner, James Wilson. No Wizard. Full details are given below, ==== Round Proposals ==== Overrule proposal 201.A: For the duration of round 201, R.O. 6 and 6a shall be replaced with the following: 6. Judge. The Judge is responsible for interpreting the ordinances and determining the validity of fantasy rules. If a fantasy rule is inconsistent with the regular ordinances or with fewer or greater than one member of the set consisting of itself and all previously posted valid fantasy rules, then the Judge shall declare that rule invalid or unsuccesful, otherwise e shall declare it valid. 6a. A fantasy rule can only be declared unsuccesful if it is inconsistent with more than one rule, and any of the rules it is inconsistent with are other fantasy rules for which it is reasonable to assume that the poster of the rule had not seen them before e posted the rule. ==== Overrule proposal 201.B: For the duration of round 201, R.O. 6 and 6a (or their replacement as mandated by 201.A, if that proposal passes) shall be replaced with the following: 6. Judge. The Judge is responsible for interpreting the ordinances and determining the validity of fantasy rules. The Judge shall declare a fantasy rule invalid or unsuccesful if any of the following criteria are met: a. The fantasy rule imposes a restriction that is impossible to obey. b. The set of rules consisting of the regular ordinances, the fantasy rule, and all previously posted valid fantasy rules is consistent. c. One or more valid fantasy rules have been previously posted, and there is no set of rules consisting of the regular ordinances, the fantasy rule, and all but one of the previously posted valid fantasy rules which is consistent. Otherwise e shall declare that rule valid. 6a. A fantasy rule can only be declared unsuccesful if it meets any of the criteria above, but would not meet any of the criteria above if it were not for the presence of any previously posted fantasy rules for which it is reasonable to assume that the poster of the rule had not seen them before e posted the rule. ==== 201:C >>>>>>> For this round only R.O. 6 shall be modified with respect to the criteria for judging rules: 1) A rule shall be judged valid if it is consistent with itself, the Regular Ordinances, and at least one rule from every minimal set of previous valid rules that the most recent previous valid rule is inconsistent with, and inconsistent with every maximal set of previous valid rules that the most recent previous valid rule is consistent with. 2) If no previous rule is valid, a rule needs only to be consistent with itself and the Regular Ordinances to be judged valid. Otherwise it shall be judged invalid or unsuccessful. 3) A rule may only be judged unsuccessful if it is only not valid only due to the existence of one or more rules for which it is reasonable to believe that the poster did not see the rule(s). >>>>>>> ==== Overrule proposal 201.C: [Renumbered 201:D] For the duration of round 201, R.O. 6 and 6a shall be replaced with the following: 6. Judge. The Judge is responsible for interpreting the ordinances and determining the validity of fantasy rules. The Judge shall declare a fantasy rule invalid or unsuccesful if any of the following criteria are met: a. The fantasy rule is inconsistent with itself c. The fantasy rule is inconsistent with more than half of previous valid fantasy rules c. One or more valid fantasy rules have been previously posted, and there is no set of rules consisting of the regular ordinances, the fantasy rule, and all but one of the previously posted valid fantasy rules which is consistent. Otherwise e shall declare that rule valid. 6a. A fantasy rule can only be declared unsuccesful if it meets any of the criteria above, but would not meet any of the criteria above if it were not for the presence of any previously posted fantasy rules for which it is reasonable to assume that the poster of the rule had not seen them before e posted the rule. ==== Round Rules ==== 201:1 ==== No VALID fantasy rule in this round may be consistant with all of the restrictions in this Fantasy rule. All VALID Fantasy Rules Must be written in English and sent by e-mail to frc_at_trolltech.com by members of the Fantasy Rules Committee. Please do not attach a signature to your rule. ==== Valid, Style -1.5 No Problems with validity, restriction I guess is ok but a nonexistent provided people sign their emails. Main deduction for style is because I would have like to see a good Proposal pass (or at least know that the others will fail) before the round got underway. Anyway the round is going guys and as it does not look like a proposal will be passed you will just find ways fit the theme without one. ==== ==== 201:2 ==== Aucune règle VALIDE d'imagination n'est consistant avec toutes les restrictions dans chacune des règles VALIDES précédentes d'imagination. Toutes les règles VALIDES d'imagination doivent avoir au moins trois restrictions. Aucune règle VALIDE d'imagination ne peut être écrite dans la même langue que la règle VALIDE d'imagination la précédant immédiatement. Aucune règle VALIDE d'imagination peut ne pas être par le même auteur que la règle VALIDE d'imagination la précédant immédiatement. ==== Assuming the translation is as follows. - No VALID fantasy rule is consistent with all the restrictions in each preceding VALID fantasy rule. All VALID fantasy rules must have at least three restrictions. No VALID fantasy rule may be written in the same language as the VALID fantasy rule immediately preceding it. No VALID fantasy rule may be by the same author as the VALID fantasy rule immediately preceding it. - I am doing this in a rush so if you think there is anything I have missed please let me know. Validity, the big question is if the rule "is inconsistent with itself, previously posted valid fantasy rules, or the regular ordinances". And I am going with what I should of stated when I Judged 201:1, that is I will take for this round there to be a difference between being consistent with rules and obeying (or being consistent with) restrictions. With that in mind this rule is consistent with 201:1, itself and the ROs, and so is VALID. Style, the pattern has been set and this follows it in an obvious way. Restrictions are reasonable for this point so +1.0 ==== ==== 201:3 ==== Keine UNZULÄSSIGE Phantasierichtlinie ist mit dieser Beschränkung gleichbleibend. Höchstens Hälfte der GÜLTIGEN Phantasie werden Richtlinien in eine Sprache geschrieben, die vom Latein abgeleitet wird. Höchstens erwähnen zwei GÜLTIGE Phantasierichtlinien Potentiometer. ==== Assuming the translation is. - No INVALID fantasy rule is consistent with this restriction. At most half of the VALID fantasy rules are written in a language that is derived from Latin. At most two VALID fantasy rules mention potentiometers. - Is happy as far as 201:1, if fact who cares if it is consistent with the restrictions it will be VALID regardless with my current scheme of things. This makes the rule trvially valid. I am quite curious if anyone can submit an INVALID rule under my current line of thinking. Style, although I really doubt these restrictions will make any difference they are quite interesting. +1.5 ==== ==== Regla 201:4 (totalmente en español) ==== Todas las reglas de la fantasía sometieron al redondo actual deben tener un número primero de palabras, deben estar en una idoma de seres humanos, y deben para seguir sus propias restricciones. ==== Assuming the translation is. - No INVALID fantasy rule is consistent with this restriction. At most half of the VALID fantasy rules are written in a language that is derived from Latin. At most two VALID fantasy rules mention potentiometers. - Is happy as far as 201:1, if fact who cares if it is consistent with the restrictions it will be VALID regardless with my current scheme of things. This makes the rule trvially valid. I am quite curious if anyone can submit an INVALID rule under my current line of thinking. Style, although I really doubt these restrictions will make any difference they are quite interesting. +1.5 ==== ==== 201:5 ==== Desde que o juiz não é certo se uma régua inválida for possível sob sua interpretação dos RO's, como revelado em governar para 201:3, eu tentarei fazer esta régua inválida compondo a no português, uma língua que, como espanhol e francês, seja derivada do latin. ==== Assuming the translation is, - Since the judge is not certain if an invalid rule will be possible under eir interpretation of the RO's, as revealed in eir judgment of 201:3, I will try to make this invalid rule written in Portuguese, a language that, like Spanish and French, is derived from Latin. - Does the rule contain any restrictions? No. The Rule is possibly inconsistent with itself. Considering "I will try to make this invalid rule" if the rule is valid is this statement consistent? Yes, as it only uses the word try. So in that case it is consistent with itself and the ROs and (trivially under my interpretation of the ROs) with the other Rules of the round. Therefore the Rule is VALID. Style nice attempt shame it did not work, +0. ==== -- Rule Date: 2003-02-21 14:14:24 GMT
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