From: Tieka (cmhuston_at_mts.net)
Date: Fri Nov 22 2002 - 10:36:46 PST
The following players are ineligible to post further rules. *E. Murphy until Rule Date: 2002-11-14 07:49:24 GMT +4.5 After several rounds lacking in action, this round proved that FRC is still very much alive. My thanks to all who participated and put up with my judging. I did not expect it to get this busy. Now it is up to the next team to keep the ball folling. Congratulations Nathan Russell, you have survived this round and have become the next Judge. Jonathan Amery is the next Wizard. Tieka, thinking about hibernation +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Style Points Summary ===================== C. Leonhard +1.5 J. Weston +6.0 A. Riddell +1.5 S. Gardner +5.5 J. Amery +7.0 Judging Summary =================== 196:1 VALID +2.5 196:2 Valid +1.5 196:3 Valid +0.0 196:4 Valid +1.5 196:5 Invalid +2.0 196:6 Invalid +2.0 196:7 Invalid +3.0 Changed to valid by proposal 196:C 196:8 Invalid +3.0 196:9 Invalid +3.0 Changed to Valid by proposal 196:E 196:10 Valid by default +2.0 196:11 Valid by Default +3 196:12 Invalid +2.5 196:13 Invalid +2.0 ============= RULES =================== 196:1 VALID +2.5 There were rounds when, three or four rules in, I didn't have a clue what was going on any more. Those were the good times. Then there was the Bribery round when, seven or eight rules in, hardly anybody had a clue what was going on any more. That was sort of a bad time, except for the Judge and eir crony. Each future eulogy (er, rule) shall suggest a new way to save FRC from assuming room temperature. (Turn it into a Points Contest in Agora Nomic?) -- Ed Murphy Rule Date: 2002-11-08 07:49:24 GMT -- (I promise I won't judge round submissions before drinking coffee again) Sorry about this, but after judging Ed's eulogy/rule, I forgot to include the score. First rule submitted, short and easy to read, simple but intriguing restriction and my benolovence give it a +3. But the Judge doesn't like to be reminded that I don't know everything, so -0.5 for the Agora reference. Total is + 2.5 Tieka, Judge, Wizard, Mortician -- Rule Date: 2002-11-09 13:41:21 GMT +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Three score and thrice three rounds ago, Nostradamus predicted the end times of the FRC. Just because he was correct in forseeing that each eulogist in this round would remind us of a round from happier times, though, must we docilely don our shrouds and lay ourselves, still living, in the ground? I have roused myself from my torpor to say you nay, and remain convinced that if we can but decipher the F'rcyeh Tablets, we can save ourselves with the secrets contained therein. -- Christian R. Leonhard Rule Date: 2002-11-08 15:34:39 GMT -- I like the use of language. It is colorful, and enhances the feeling this rounds theme. I am also very impressed with the final two paragraphs. It seems to remind us that the FRC is a secret committee and our actions must be help in the strictest confidence. This fits in nicely with the decryptiuon of the sacred F'rcyeh tablets. It's too bad that neither the location nor any of the inscriptions on the Tablets themselves are mentioned. Moreever, Christian may be convinced that the F'rcyeh tablets are the the solution, but his words are not as forceful as I would prefer. The Tablets remain a possibility, but not a requirenment. +1 language, +1 final paragraphs, -0.5 weak restriction Tieka, Wizard, Judge, Mortician, Free Mason -- Rule Date: 2002-11-10 03:31:23 GMT +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 196:3 VALID +0.0 Being a numerologist this round has a very pleasing number, being the square of 14. 14 is, itself, the product of the numbers of the first two remaining archived rounds (at ftp.nvg.ntnu.no). So, I recommend that we should eschew he sillyness of limerics, as 2 is a strange prime, but instead follow round 7's lead and make all eulogies shorter than those before them, and hope to extend the FRC by minimising the space it takes up. -- Jonathan Amery Rule Date: 2002-11-08 16:02:41 GMT -- First Nostradum and now numerology. What's next, astrology? Actually this does seem to fit in with the hard-to-understand sub-theme. Fortunetly Jonathan spells it out for us. Unfortunetly, he uses nice little words like 'eschew' then mispells even simplier words like 'the'. The suggestion for saving FRC could be interesting. I can see at least two ways to interpet this restriction. It will be interesting to see how this works out. This is another weak restriction, but does not violate any prior rule(suggestion). Actually, 196:1 required suggestions, so this suggestion has no less value that prior suggestions. +1 for remberance, -1 for silly spelling mistakes (no penalties for mispelling harder words) Tieka, Wizard, Judge, Mortician, Free Mason, bean counter Rule Date: 2002-11-10 02:08:27 GMT +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 196:4 VALID +1.5 Ah, remember the good old days when we could look back on the dirt and filth of previous rounds without the rose tinited sepcticals of nostalga. From now on Rules shall make reference to a previous round, such as the unforgettable round with the board, which sadly I cant remeber the number of... What is it again? -- Alan Riddell Rule Date: 2002-11-10 13:13:07 GMT -- Let's see here, we have nostaglia which is good for eulogies, but we seem to be lacking any way to improve FRC before it's untimley death. Nor does it follow the suggestion of deciphering the F'rcyeh Tablets. It is shorter than previous suggestions, so it has followed one of the suggestions. It does contain a much stronger restriction on future rules, so I won't be forced to interpet another suggestion. Since Alan has already publicly admitted his spelling problem I don't feel it necessary to further penalize him. I am very pleased with the reference to things nobody understands. Over all I give this rule +1.5 Tieka, Wizard, Judge, and a lot more stuff -- Rule Date: 2002-11-12 01:30:45 GMT +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 196:5 INVALID +2.0 Remember the Hypocrisy round? "Yes, Sincerity shall be our theme..." Each future eulogy shall say something nice about a previous eulogy. 196:4 would have been better if it hadn't duplicated 196:2's requirement. -- Ed Murphy Rule Date: 2002-11-10 22:25:18 GMT -- We seem to be losing the eulogy theme but with each rule getting shorter, I suppose it is necessary for the theme to get smaller as well. In fact, I can't seem to find any hint of eulogy except for the word 'remember.' Because of this I must find this rule invalid but since it does follow _most_ of the suggestions I will give it +2.0. Tieka, who is looking for writing extolling the virtues and services of FRC. -- Rule Date: 2002-11-12 01:51:27 GMT +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 196:6 INVALID +2.0 196:5 has interest, but it didn't help our future. Thinking of 186 and 190, we should seek more advantageous names for FRC than "Fantasy Recreation Consulting" -- Jonathan Amery Rule Date: 2002-11-11 00:33:32 GMT -- This attempt falls short for the same reason 196:5 does. It does follow some of the suggestions, and follows the valid rules with stronger restrictions posted so far. I give it +2.0 noting that this rule follows one of four possible ways of interpeting 196:3. Tieka, Consultant -- Rule Date: 2002-11-13 00:52:32 GMT +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 196:7 INVALID (changed to VALID by proposal 196:C) Thanks 196:6 for reminding me of the time I joined FRC, round 190. Name FRC "Fancy Random Creation" to save it. Rules cannot use "fantasy" in the name for FRC. -- Jeff Weston Rule Date: 2002-11-12 07:31:34 GMT -- Fails to "decipher the F'rcyeh Tablets" so it is Invalid. It does follow the restriction in 196:3 in two aspects, and follows all other restrictions. +3.0 Style Points Tieka, Judge-buried by paperwork -- Rule Date: 2002-11-14 19:08:25 GMT +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 196:8 INVALID +3.0 Ah FRC... It seems I hardly knew thee. My first memories of FRC start with round 187 in July of this year. While I found the puzzle theme fascinating, I also found it too tricky to try to participate in it. However, my fondest memories of FRC come from round 190. You see, that was the round where I posted my first ever rule. Then there was round 191 where I was a co-wizard with Ed Murphy. Very fond memories... *sniff* I'll miss you FRC! Of course, I sincerely hope that this eulogy is not needed. 196:2 has provided us with the excellent suggestion of deciphering the F'rcyeh Tablets. I understand that even now, scientists have decoded a portion of the F'rcyeh Tablets! The first secret they have discovered may reveal the perfect method to keep FRC from assuming room temperature. The name they have given the snippet is "Fantastic Rule Cooking". Here is the snippet of the F'rcyeh Tablets that they have deciphered: ----- ...the oven set at 200 degrees. If the temperature of FRC gets anywhere near to room temperature, place it in the oven to correct the problem. Repeat as often... ----- All further rules must announce a further deciphering of the F'rcyeh Tablets, and name the new deciphering. -- Jeff Weston Rule Date: 2002-11-13 06:19:52 GMT -- Ah, the agony for the Judge. A beutiful eulogy, and it follows the suggestion (restrictions) of 196:1-7, but alas, it is longer than 196:4. I wish that I could do more for this wonderful rule, but style of +3.0 is all that I can do for this INVALID rule. Tieka, wiping a tear from my eye. -- Rule Date: 2002-11-14 19:18:29 GMT +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 196:9 INVALID +3.0 (Changed to VALID by proposal 196:E) FRC! How I frolicked among the limericks of Round 2 with Joev, who circumvented the traps I set for him! As the ancient Fr'cyeh Tablets provide, let each of us step forward and recall the deeds of a former FRC player, now departed. Perhaps thus we may find courage to save FRC. -- Steve Gardner Rule Date: 2002-11-14 01:05:59 GMT -- Follows theme nicely, and most other rules, but I cannot determine how we are supposed to save FRC (re 196:1). This rule is even shorter in at least one respect than all other valid rules, and some of the invalid ones as well. It is nice to see a new/old face. so, I will give the traditional high style for newcomers. INVALID +3.0 Tieka, who can see the end of the tunnel -- Rule Date: 2002-11-14 19:31:20 GMT +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 196:10 (In)Valid +2.0 According to my interpretation of the F'rcyeh Tablets, we can save FRC from a cold and lonely death if we simply recall the joyous times we had in earlier rounds, such as round 69, 105, and 42... all of which were far happier than the current time of boredom :(. All future rules shall use smileys. -- Nathan Russell Rule Date: 2002-11-15 04:14:01 GMT -- In consideration of the voting process, I will not determine the validity or invalidity of this rule, as any such distinction may change depending upon the final outcome of the many proposals. However, I will assign style points. +1 for staying on theme, +1 for being new, +0.5 for a solid restriction, and -0.5 for calling the current time boring. (86 emails for this round is defenitely not boring). Total is +2.0 Tieka, Judge, Wizard, and way too many other things -- Rule Date: 2002-11-15 16:46:10 GMT +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 196:11 '85 was the best round. Stopping FRC getting murdered is something we appreciated. All rules must give a measure that will help defend the FRC. Alas the FRC dies...' -- The Tablets. -- Jonathan Amery Rule Date: 2002-11-15 16:07:27 GMT -- Short. Lines short and number words is less. Eulogy good. Save FRC. Remember past. Tablets. No Fantasy. 3 days old=VALID. Judge happy. Style +3 Tieka -- Rule Date: 2002-11-20 01:15:08 GMT +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 196:12 INVALID +2.5 Evermore shall FRC live in my heart, for the FRC'yeh Tablets sayeth:-) rd 33 (NewSpeak) ++good; grayt theem, øryan! To save FRC: begin all eulogies with 'E'. Amen. -- Steve Gardner Rule Date: 2002-11-20 05:20:53 GMT -- A niced little eulogy that satisfies all of the suggestions and most of the rules. There is a little trouble with 196:9 and 196:11. 196:9 requires everyone to recall a former FRC player, but does not specify when, so I am assuming that someday in the future Steve will refer to a former player, thus 196:9 is fulfilled. Unfortunetly, it is not so easy to explain the requirenment of 196:11. This rule requires "All rules must give a measure that will help defend the FRC..." Unfortunetly, I see nothing in this rule that even comes close to "defending" FRC. I do like the nice simple restriction for future rules, but I must find this rule INVALID. Becasue it does follow suggestions, and because Steve is still submitting after all of the proposals, I give this attempt +2.5. Tieka -- Rule Date: 2002-11-20 19:55:07 GMT +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 196:13 INVALID +2.0 "Do not heat this FRC above 10Kelvin, as is flamable" - F'rcyeh Tablets Is said Slakko was a member, he would enjoy round 179 where confusion reigned and which tells us new rules must contain letter 'x'. -- Jonathan Amery Rule Date: 2002-11-21 00:38:39 GMT -- We have all been assuming that above room temperature was a good thing for FRC, but Jonathan reminds us that really cold is just as much 'not room temperature.' It's really amazing how much information is in the F'rceh tablets. Perhaps another round. Anway, this rule is shorter in one respect than previous valid rules, and it reminds us of previous rounds and names a departed player as well. I don't really see any defense of the FRC here, nor do I see a smiley. As the collection of proposals pointed out, 'X shall Y' is a restriction, so the requirenment of 196:10 must be dealt with. Unfortunetly, no smiley means this rule is INVALID. Ever so close, but not good enough. This rule gets +2.0 in style. Tieka, noting that the end is near! -- Rule Date: 2002-11-21 22:10:59 GMT ====== PROPOSALS ====== 196:A Fails Upon the adoption of this proposal, the decision of the judge for 196:3 will be changed to Invalid. ----- NO Jeff Weston (Sir Toby) NO Christian R. Leonhard NO G. Overby NO Rich Holmes NO Alan "Peekee" Riddell NO Steve Gardner CONFUSED J. Amery NO Ed Murphy ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 196:B Fails Upon the adoption of this proposal, the decision of the judge for 196:4 will be changed to Invalid. ----- FOR Jeff Weston (Sir Toby) FOR Christian R. Leonhard NO G. Overby FOR Rich Holmes NO Alan "Peekee" Riddell NO Steve Gardner CONFUSED J. Amery FOR Ed Murphy ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 196:C Pass Upon the adoption of this proposal, the decision of the judge for 196:7 will be changed to Valid. ----- FOR G. Overby FOR Rich Holmes FOR Jeff Weston (Sir Toby) NO Alan "Peekee" Riddell FOR Steve Gardner CONFUSED J. Amery FOR Ed Murphy FOR Christian R. Leonhard ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 196:D Fails All Rules posted prior to the posting of this Proposal shall be declared VALID, regardless of prior rulings, vote results on earlier proposals, or any inconsistencies between Rules. ----- FOR G. Overby NO Rich Holmes NO Jeff Weston (Sir Toby) NO Alan "Peekee" Riddell NO Steve Gardner CONFUSED J. Amery NO Ed Murphy NO Christian R. Leonhard ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 196:E Pass Fantasy Rule 196:9 is valid. ----- FOR Ed Murphy FOR Steve Gardner FOR Jeff Weston (Sir Toby) FOR Alan "Peekee" Riddell NO Rich Holmes NO Christian R. Leonhard 196:F Fails Upon adoption of this proposal all previous proposals are awarded a pat on the back and then summarily rejected. All previous rules are rendered invalid and the rounds is declared over, Joshua - previously declared G.O.D. (D.O.G. aussi) of this fascinating rules committee in Round 192, becomes judge of round 197, and Nathan Russel is awarded two style points for being so enthusiastic. "AS G.O.D. (or D.O.G.) I DON'T HAVE TO SUBMIT A PROPOSAL TO GET WHAT I WANT BUT TO TRY AN REINFORCE THE LEGITIMACY OF THIS SHAKEN AND BATTERED COMMITTEE I WILL GO THROUGH THE PROPER CHANNELS. (JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN AND IF YOU VOTE ON THIS PROPOSAL YOU PATHETIC MORTALS!)" ----- FOR Mylton Blake NO Ed Murphy NO Steve Gardner NO G. Overby NO Jeff Weston (Sir Toby) NO Alan "Peekee" Riddell FOR Rich Holmes NO Christian R. Leonhard ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 196:G Fails Upon the adoption of this proposal, the decision of the judge for 196:8 will be changed to Valid. ----- NO Rich Holmes NO Christian R. Leonhard NO Ed Murphy NO Jeff Weston (Sir Toby) NO Steve Gardner -- Rule Date: 2002-11-22 19:38:34 GMT
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